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In the beginning there was… what?



That is a question that humanity has been looking for an answer for since humanity began.


How did we come into being? Every culture has its own answer. For the Norse the world formed from the Ice of the north. Greek mythology states that the universe was formed from Chaos. Christianity and Judaism state that God created the universe in 6 days and rested on the 7th. Also through biblical chronology it is assumed that the universe is between 4000 and 10000 years old. Islam states that Allah created the universe in 6 aeons.

And Scientists claim that the universe started from a ‘big bang’ and life was a random event. Then humanity and complex life evolved from single celled organisms. Scientists also estimate that the age of the universe is between 12 and 15 billion years old.


So which of these are correct?

Well there is proof that the Norse and Greek creation stories are not true, But what about the Abrahamic religions and Science? Could it be that they are all right to some extent?


The creations story of Christianity and Judaism (Genesis 1-2:3) shows that a benevolent God created the universe in an orderly fashion. Islam also has a benevolent God creating the universe, and states that He did it in a number of aeons.


The big bang theory states that the universe exploded from a hot dense state. However, the big bang theory cannot say what was before this, or what caused this hot dense state.



Genesis 1:1-5 (NIV)


In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.


And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.




Could this be the big bang? I think so. God said the words and it was. That would be an explosion of matter. That could easily be the big bang.

In the first ‘day’ God created all the interstellar bodies, and the earth. But what is a day to an eternal being? I think that this is the aeons in the Islamic creation story, and the billions of years needed for the scientific theory.



Scientists claim that the earth is about 4.5 billion years old. And if we look at the Christian creation story, the first 4 ‘days’ are spent on the creation of the earth and universe. Using the aeon instead of literal days science and creation would then coincide.


The fifth ‘day’ of creation God creates the creatures of the sea and air. And on the sixth ‘day’ God creates all the creatures of the land culminating with humanity.


Scientists claim that humanity evolved from ‘lesser’ creatures; that we share the same origins as the great apes and other primates. Genetically we are beyond similar with the great apes. We share 98.5% of the same genes with Chimpanzee’s. Despite this however science cannot conclusively prove that humans are evolved from the same origins. They continually look for the “missing link” I don’t believe that they will find one because we did not evolve from a lesser species. We were created in God’s image.


Now just because we have not evolved from lesser beings does not mean that we have not evolved. And the same is true for all the other creatures on earth.

There is archaeological and anthropological evidence that humans have evolved. In the Stone Age humans were (on average) only slightly shorter than we are now. When humans started to farm and learned of agriculture, we became shorter. And now humans have continued to evolve, and are taller (on average) then ever before.


There is also evidence that other creatures evolve.


Can creation and evolution work together? I think it can.


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Interesting theory, which begs the question, when the bible and other texts were written thousands of years ago, how did they know of the big bang?

On evolution, i have read research which suggests that humans are neotenized apes, we retained juvenile characteristics which extended the learning period and allowed us superior intelligence. Similar to how dogs developed from wolves.

Its funny how we seem to know that dogs descended from wolves but really cant be certain the same happened with humans.

How can we be sure that God intended for us to be in our current form, maybe he was aiming for apes and see what happens?

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I wouldn't say that 5000 years ago, they knew of the big bang, but they knew of creation, because of what God told them. In the beginning, humanity was in perfect communion with God, and God does maintain contact with humanity even after the fall. :)

As for knowing whether we are as God intended or not... we know we are as intended, for the same reason we know of creation. God told us. :) That doesn't mean that we couldn't be neotenized apes. Personally however, I don't think that the "missing link" will be found though. 
And on a side note, Dogs were bread from wolves within the human experience. Were it not for human intervention with wolves, dogs wouldn't exist. 
I recently seen a study that claims that scientist could take a red fox, and within six generations, completely change the defining features of the fox to something unrecognizable as a fox. It would obviously still be a fox, and still look like a K9ish species, but not a red fox. This same thing could be (and probably was) applied to dogs. 

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Actually dogs happened far more subtly than that, its thought that wolves scavenged from human food waste in villages, these wolves become more confident and socialized with humans, the wolves that werent scared off got more food. They maybe interacted more but werent best buds yet. These wolves probably evolved into wild dogs, since they didnt need the powerful jaws and hunting instincts that wolves had and were probably trained from there.

I had heard of the red fox study, it wasnt completely unrecognizable, i think they got floppy ears and tails may have changed.

But human height cant be the only thing thats changed in thousands and thousands of years, 


IDK, I'm kinda arguing with myself here lol

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